Pinball legality
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I remember when I was growing up and going on one of those Family "Pack up the car and go" vacations to the 1982 world fair (in Tennessee) we stopped at a motel for the night and there was a bowling alley next door. I snook away for a minute and they had a pinball machine. It had a sign on it saying you must be 18 or older to play this machine. I don't remember which state it was but it was somewhere along the way from MA to TN.
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I was told that the free game was considered gambling by some(illegal) so the manufactures start making different version of the same games where the bonus was not a free game but would add a ball.
So to collectors the same machine was collectible with the free game and the "add a ball" feature. some guys prefer the add a ball if your trying to get a record high score, another ball could get more points but another credit is another game.
So to collectors the same machine was collectible with the free game and the "add a ball" feature. some guys prefer the add a ball if your trying to get a record high score, another ball could get more points but another credit is another game.
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I remember my grandfather telling me that once he had to take electrical tape and cover up the game counter on the older machines due to at the time they concidered pinball a gambling device in Indiana. He told me that when I see a sign that says "replay at xxxxx points" its how they get around the gambling laws. If the machines would say "free game at xxxx points" then thats the pinballs that they would pick up and destroy.
My grandfather also told me that they technically haven't changed the law (as of 2002 anyways) but Pinball has been such a popular item and "everyone has them" that the IGC doesn't even bother anymore. they have enough bars that they have to keep tabs on with poker machines and cherry master machines that they simply just don't have the time nor the resources to pick up the estimated 750,000+ Pinball Machines that are in the state of Indiana.
Mind you what I have just said was dated back in 2002. My grandfather had since sold his company, retired, and passed away.
My grandfather also told me that they technically haven't changed the law (as of 2002 anyways) but Pinball has been such a popular item and "everyone has them" that the IGC doesn't even bother anymore. they have enough bars that they have to keep tabs on with poker machines and cherry master machines that they simply just don't have the time nor the resources to pick up the estimated 750,000+ Pinball Machines that are in the state of Indiana.
Mind you what I have just said was dated back in 2002. My grandfather had since sold his company, retired, and passed away.
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Thats the sticky point, winning a 'free game' is not free it costs something to play and you never get that back. = NOT gambling. IMHO but some pin headed lawmakers or gaming commissioner dreamed up that loop hole so they could smash and burn a few games.
now if you actually won THE game that would be gambling.
now if you actually won THE game that would be gambling.
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I think if they want to get rid of all gambling then they have to get rid of the tools of biggest gambling craze of all. They need to burn all of the playing cards. I don't care if you can't play bridge anymore, they are a gambling device and we must purge society of this evil.
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Hey look a new thread!Gman wrote:This thread like any good conversation wanders from topic to topic.
Now if a moderator was on this they could split this off into its own thread.
Cards are the work of the gambeling devil and all must be destroyed immediatly. But people will bet on anything if they are inclined. a dice roll, any game can be bet on. football, baseball etc any thing can be bet on. One of the funniest betting games or weirdest is cow bingo, buy a square and where the cow drops a patty is the winning square.
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HA HA joke honey really! put the frying pan down!
I am a bit busy we are down a man on the crew, we told management to get another body we are running behind so their wise answer? we now have to fill out more paperwork so they can track our time ?? Great that makes so much sense, we don't have time to do the existing work so they gave us more work to do, brilliant really. I want to retire early..
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